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Post by Jess » 27 Feb 2008, 10:35

How many of you, if any, take any kind of supplements? Like multivitamins or garlic etc? Do they actually make any difference if you do? Do you notice the effects if you don't take them for a few days?

I take Evening primrose oil when I remember to and have just started taking Vitamin C that I got given for my birthday :nuts:. The Evening primrose is to help with PMT and general moods, after taking it for a while I really notice a different, I'm not sure if they are actually work or whether it's just a physicosamtic thing. But my moods deteriorate a lot if I don't take them, my memory is shit so this usually occurs :(
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Post by kev » 27 Feb 2008, 11:22

i used to take multivitamins all the time and rarely got ill, since i stopped taking them a'm sure i was ill more and generally not with as much energy etc etc.., so i've started again now :) and i've found there's loads more tablets you can get these days, special man tablets or special women multi vitamin tablets!! SO im' gonna pur-chase some of them :D

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Post by LittleTill » 27 Feb 2008, 11:27

i get really achey joints sometimes and i used to take cod liver oil - which made my joints stop acheing and made my tummy bad.
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Post by metal_dave » 27 Feb 2008, 12:31

i take nuffin. i bought some multi-vitamins once, took about three and then forgot all about them.
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Post by Alka » 27 Feb 2008, 15:33

Nothing to add except this reminded me to take my multivit.
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Post by Favourite Ginge » 27 Feb 2008, 16:13

I take a multivitamin everyday. Don't think i need most of it, but it's important to get enough vitamin D to help prevent osteoporosis, and people in the UK usually have fairly low levels, especially in the winter when a lot of us are actually a bit deficient (coz there's not enough sun). I take it for the selenium too, to help mop up my free radicals (sorry...getting a bit geeky here!) as people living in the UK often don't get enough of that either.

I feel less lethargic since I've been taking it.

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Post by Tomaroundtheworld » 27 Feb 2008, 16:59

I'm going to start taking a sugar pill so that I can effectively beat my depression.

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Post by chippy » 28 Feb 2008, 07:05

I take 5-HTP occasionally as a general mood booster, to get over comedowns, or occasionally as a sleep aid. It's good stuff.
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Post by Ginger » 28 Feb 2008, 07:46

I used to take multivits when i was preggers. A few months ago i started taking calcium tabs because i didnt think i was getting enough (i dont drink milk) but then i got REALLY constipated and read that you get constipated from too much calcium so i stopped as obviously i was getting enough anyways. Now i poo alright.
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Post by lcfmademedoit » 28 Feb 2008, 12:00

I take multivitimains with pro biotic in, caffeine pills as i hate coffee, sometimes take carb blockers depending on when/if i've been to the gym.

Also creatine and nitric oxide pills for faster muscle recovery all that and the occasional glucos sulphate tablet for joints.
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Post by Tomaroundtheworld » 28 Feb 2008, 13:08

chippy wrote:I take 5-HTP occasionally as a general mood booster, to get over comedowns, or occasionally as a sleep aid. It's good stuff.


I take 5-HTP regularly. Even if it's more of a psychological thing than a physical thing I notice a difference.

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Post by filsatan » 28 Feb 2008, 13:11

It's a huge con and you're all wasting your money. Eat properly.
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Post by chippy » 28 Feb 2008, 13:17

Not 5-HTP, that's great stuff. Gives me the craziest dreams.
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Post by Tomaroundtheworld » 28 Feb 2008, 13:21

I'm pretty happy with my diet, my only worry would be the iron etc that I'm missing from meat (but I eat a lot of spinach which has that in it anyway), but I make sure I keep my diet varied enough so that I get enough of everything in it.

I did start taking multivitamins for a while when I first started being vegetarian, but then when I ran out of my first bottle I just didn't bother getting any more and didn't notice any difference anyway. I'm a pretty healthy chap to be honest.

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Post by filsatan » 28 Feb 2008, 14:22

Multivitamins will make you all die of cancer, in a different way than you will otherwise die of cancer. Or you will have double cancer. Probably.
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Post by Favourite Ginge » 28 Feb 2008, 14:29

filsatan wrote:It's a huge con and you're all wasting your money. Eat properly.


Not necessarily a con. Can't always get everything from food. Definitely worth upping your vitamin D levels in the winter....and you can't get enough of that from food (unless you eat a LOT of oily fish perhaps). True story. Learning about this stuff made me start taking vits, rather than thinking they're all bullshit. Agreed that eating properly means you shouldn't need most supplements, but I wouldn't say it was a waste of money IF you look at the bottle and check what it's got in it. Many cheaper multivitamins only contain stuff you should get from a varied & balanced diet....slightly con-ish, but not if you don't eat properly in the first place.

And multivitamins don't = cancer.

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Favourite Ginge wrote:
filsatan wrote:It's a huge con and you're all wasting your money. Eat properly.


Not necessarily a con. Can't always get everything from food. Definitely worth upping your vitamin D levels in the winter....and you can't get enough of that from food (unless you eat a LOT of oily fish perhaps). True story. Learning about this stuff made me start taking vits, rather than thinking they're all bullshit. Agreed that eating properly means you shouldn't need most supplements, but I wouldn't say it was a waste of money IF you look at the bottle and check what it's got in it. Many cheaper multivitamins only contain stuff you should get from a varied & balanced diet....slightly con-ish, but not if you don't eat properly in the first place.

And multivitamins don't = cancer.


Prove it.
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filsatan wrote:It's a huge con and you're all wasting your money. Eat properly.


Not necessarily a con. Can't always get everything from food. Definitely worth upping your vitamin D levels in the winter....and you can't get enough of that from food (unless you eat a LOT of oily fish perhaps). True story. Learning about this stuff made me start taking vits, rather than thinking they're all bullshit. Agreed that eating properly means you shouldn't need most supplements, but I wouldn't say it was a waste of money IF you look at the bottle and check what it's got in it. Many cheaper multivitamins only contain stuff you should get from a varied & balanced diet....slightly con-ish, but not if you don't eat properly in the first place.

And multivitamins don't = cancer.


An over-adundance of certain vitamins can cause a variety of health problems though.

I heard that vitamins are in tablet form are not that easily absorbed by the body, I'm not sure about the science of it specifically, although I do know that with Vitamin C for example, a steady intake is better, as only a certain amount can be absorbed at once, and it is used within a few hours, so a steady supply is needed. Taking 100% of your RDA in one go just means you'll piss most of it out again.
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Post by filsatan » 28 Feb 2008, 14:35

Come on, hurry up.
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Google 'multivitamins and cancer'.
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Post by Favourite Ginge » 28 Feb 2008, 15:15

Well it never came up in my cancer module...prove they do (google doesn't count)?
But you could maybe look at:
Beliveau R. Gingras D. "Role of nutrition in preventing cancer" Canadian Family Physician. 53(11):1905-11, 2007 Nov.
Autier P. Gandini S. "Vitamin D supplementation and total mortality: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials". Archives of Internal Medicine. 167(16):1730-7, 2007 Sep 10.
Lappe JM. Travers-Gustafson D. Davies KM. Recker RR. Heaney RP. "Vitamin D and calcium supplementation reduces cancer risk: results of a randomized trial." American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 85(6):1586-91, 2007 Jun
Elina Hyppönen and Chris Power: "Hypovitaminosis D in British adults at age 45 y: nationwide cohort study of dietary and lifestyle predictors " Am J Clin Nutr 2007 85: 860-868

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Post by Jess » 28 Feb 2008, 15:58

chippy wrote:
Favourite Ginge wrote:
filsatan wrote:It's a huge con and you're all wasting your money. Eat properly.


Not necessarily a con. Can't always get everything from food. Definitely worth upping your vitamin D levels in the winter....and you can't get enough of that from food (unless you eat a LOT of oily fish perhaps). True story. Learning about this stuff made me start taking vits, rather than thinking they're all bullshit. Agreed that eating properly means you shouldn't need most supplements, but I wouldn't say it was a waste of money IF you look at the bottle and check what it's got in it. Many cheaper multivitamins only contain stuff you should get from a varied & balanced diet....slightly con-ish, but not if you don't eat properly in the first place.

And multivitamins don't = cancer.


An over-adundance of certain vitamins can cause a variety of health problems though.

I heard that vitamins are in tablet form are not that easily absorbed by the body, I'm not sure about the science of it specifically, although I do know that with Vitamin C for example, a steady intake is better, as only a certain amount can be absorbed at once, and it is used within a few hours, so a steady supply is needed. Taking 100% of your RDA in one go just means you'll piss most of it out again.


So preferably Orange juice on an intrivenus(sp) then?

I have a healthy diet, love veg, not so keen on meat. Works pretty well. Although I should probably eat more fruit but I don't like it much. Not a sweet person.
Although I have had to up my fibre in take because my gut is being stupid. It hasn't made much difference yet, hopefully it will though.
I don't think the supplements I'm taking, well the Evening primrose, is a con. It seems to make a pretty good difference and if it means I'm nicer and feel happier because of it then great. Also, after having C.F.S, anything that gives me a boost is welcomed. I can't wait for the summer, sunshine has a big impact!
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Post by knobsack » 28 Feb 2008, 16:30

My diet's shit, I should probably take supplements. My main problem with my diet is that I don't eat that much fruit cos it makes my mouth really itchy and my makes my windpipe feel like it's constricted. It's annoying cos I really like most fruit I just get put off it, it's ok if I take an antihistamine when i want to eat fruit but I don't always have those.

So, you people with knowledge recommend me a supplement I can take to make up for my poor diet.
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Post by filsatan » 28 Feb 2008, 16:32

Favourite Ginge wrote:Well it never came up in my cancer module...prove they do (google doesn't count)?
But you could maybe look at:
Beliveau R. Gingras D. "Role of nutrition in preventing cancer" Canadian Family Physician. 53(11):1905-11, 2007 Nov.
Autier P. Gandini S. "Vitamin D supplementation and total mortality: a meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials". Archives of Internal Medicine. 167(16):1730-7, 2007 Sep 10.
Lappe JM. Travers-Gustafson D. Davies KM. Recker RR. Heaney RP. "Vitamin D and calcium supplementation reduces cancer risk: results of a randomized trial." American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 85(6):1586-91, 2007 Jun
Elina Hyppönen and Chris Power: "Hypovitaminosis D in British adults at age 45 y: nationwide cohort study of dietary and lifestyle predictors " Am J Clin Nutr 2007 85: 860-868


Very nice, but I said multivitamins.

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/news/a ... y/18160880
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/s ... isk/512167
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6657795.stm
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 051007.php
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/k ... 6/00000384
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/ ... ME_2809956

Nothing is ever over conclusive, but I think you will agree not to be ruled out.
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elliott wrote:burned lol.


Contribution. lol.
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filsatan wrote:
elliott wrote:burned lol.


Contribution. lol.


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